we spend trillions on defense. federal pension that is 22 percent of the federal budget. we give pensions to members of congress and let's look at that and look at entitlements and look at the big honey pot and the big spending. >> i am all with mark in bringing down the pensions of the politicians. here are the facts, in 2009, we had a stimulus spending. 800 billion extra from 2008. guess what, it never stopped. it was supposed to be a one stop 2010 and 11 and 12 we have maintained the extra spending in a time when we had cut back on military spending. >> absolutely. >> and that is increasing and guess what, that adds up to the deficit, right? >> david, the problem is deeper than what you are describing. this goes back decades. when you look at entitlement spending over the last half century, it has steadily crept up four percent every year and that includes adjustments for population growth. so what then? you increase taxes four percent every year? that is absurd. at some point we need both parties to come together and tax this entitlement creep. we mention obama ape lo